The era of reproduction Western firearms began in the early 1950s when Val Forgett, of the American Navy Arms company, visited this area of Italy in search of a manufacturer who could make a copy of the Colt 1851 Navy revolver. The Remington ammo was balky on entering the chamber. February 18, 2016 in SASS Wire. A. UBERTI & C. GARDONE V.T. 0000037734 00000 n 0000007642 00000 n The little button behind the loading lever had distinct stops every 90 degrees, a feature was missing from the previously tested version. any information would be of help. Cylinder tight when trigger pulled all the way back. You are using an out of date browser. That's your build date. We cleaned the Uberti and went right to work at the range, and the rifle did all it could to please us. 0000009592 00000 n This one seems to be an older mfg., very high quality lock action. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. These are the guns that REALLY, "Won The West!" 357 MAG." and features several Italian proof marks. 0000050889 00000 n document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); You have entered an incorrect email address! 9) An early Euroarms name stamp. 0000050991 00000 n Groups with the PMC averaged 2.3 inches at 50 yards off the bench. 0000052548 00000 n 1860 HENRY and the bottom tang held A. 1) An example of a full set of Proof and maker's marks on a Pedersoli pistol. Mechanics:The action functions correctly. This replica is chambered for a modern cartridge, making for an interesting pistol suitable for target shooting and varmint hunting. They also did a Colt 1855 revolving rifle. To become a member $3 for one day $7 one month or $15 one year, One-of-a-Kinds ~ Antique and Collectibles, Metal Shank Buttons with Victorian Design. Bore Condition:The bore is mostly bright with sharp rifling. Be sure to match the rifles caliber to that of your handguns as you ride off into the sunset to your next shooting match, just as they did in the Old West. 0000011024 00000 n Both made in 1976 it has markings but no manufacture marks I would like to know who made them ? I think it is a new Army 1858 but the Navy Arms on the top of barrel confuses me. Englishmen are not CITIZENS, they are SUBJECTS! Stock Configuration & Condition/ Grip:The stocks are two-piece smooth wood featuring a forend and pistol grip. Did that Dawg,nothing.There is a serial number on the receiver right in front of the lever and below the carrier and a proof mark above the carrier.There are two proof marks on the barrel and a roman numeral just in front of the receiver.Nothing on the tangs at all.It had a lever safety on it a onetime and someone took it out.It was said to be a Uberti but it does not have Uberti on it anywhere.I have had 4 Uberti 22s and this one is the only one with out Uberti on the tang.It is the smoothest and you can run it faster than any of the other ones. 0000001196 00000 n 0000002445 00000 n It will come as no surprise then to find that the Italian Proof House is also in the valley. Black Powder Date Codes. There is no Roman numerals on this 1851. Note! 0000002932 00000 n The Italian proof marks should have a rectangular or square box with a date code in it. Dear Friends, The chart will enable you to determine the date your gun was proved. 0000002293 00000 n stamping on the frame is CMC or CMG not clear. Behind that were two Italian proof marks. 0000051690 00000 n 0000004778 00000 n 0000039738 00000 n The barrel and cylinder are the usual Uberti black rather than the blue of the originals and the finish is to a high standard, indicating good polishing before the finish was applied. The markings remain clear. 0000105711 00000 n %%EOF Of course, original Henry rifles were never chambered for anything but the 44 Henry Rimfire, so whether you choose 44-40 or 45 LC for your modern 1860 Henry is of no consequence. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. We dont think thats necessary, however it looked mighty nice. startxref Hi, Dennis Loading the rifle was easy, by which we mean the follower easily raised the front lock to let the gate swing open without any of the fiddling the Henrys version needed. Copyright 2019 sassnet.com However, the only proof mark I can find that looks like a 'house' proof is on the butt of the gun: a PR where the P and the R are overlapped, right next to the 3-digit serial #. 0000109981 00000 n It just seems that a little more care in their placement could result in more acceptability and perhaps more sales to the purists. We did note the edges of just about everything the front gate system, the edges of the magazine cut along the bottom of the rifle, etc. 22 HORNET. ITALY. 0000003020 00000 n 10) Uberti name and address stamping from 1975. 22 0 obj << /Linearized 1 /O 25 /H [ 1485 306 ] /L 118117 /E 82195 /N 2 /T 117559 >> endobj xref 22 45 0000000016 00000 n I find strange that an Uberti gun has no date code. I take it that it was made in 1979, which sounds right, I bought it used in the early 1980's. It is a well made old gun. Powered by Invision Community. First Year of Production Navy Arms, 1851 Navy Revolver The bluing was authentic looking. fW5Zi|Fki"Mf4i{~9wY C [[8jD=z"ef ~ZckGWE(}vE|4 This stands for Armi Chiappa in reference to Rino Chiappa, the companys founder. .22 Long Rifle" is marked twice around the circumference of the cylinder at the rear along with two proof marks. Uberti set the standard for producing quality replica firearms by which all others are judged. Also included is the origianal cardboard wood grain box and waxed wrapping paper. 36 made in itlay. Thats not enough recommendation for us to invest in the Henry Original, so we began looking for a similarly styled levergun and found the Uberti version of 1860 Henry for a lot less money. 5) The palm tree logo of Palmetto Arms. Model: . All of these reproductions will also be marked ITALY or MADE IN ITALY, along with a serial number, calibre and, in the case of Uberti and Pedersoli, often a catalogue number. 0000005085 00000 n Uberti identification | The Firearms Forum I like the Uberti's use of discrete placement of proof marks. We suspect itd be a delight with black powder. I will always hold a special place in my heart for my great great grandfathers Newhaven Arms 1860 Henry, but my Henry Repeating Arms Co rifle will always hold second to that one hands down no contest. Partly because of that problem and partly because of the high price, $2300, we gave the rifle a Grade: C rating. Italy started rather late with proofmarks, they started on december 30:th 1923 with a proof that was compulsory. The recently introduced line of firearms from Palmetto Arms is marked with the company logo of a palm tree within a circle, sometimes followed by the name, PALMETTO. Without photographs of all of the marks on the pistol it is difficult to identify - see my reply above. UBERTI ITALY and the serial number. On a visit to the Uberti factory I saw an example of an aged Colt 1860 Army revolver and had it not been for the Italian marks it could very easily have passed as an original. I was born there LO these many years ago, but in 1977 I came to the United States, and have enjoyed FREEDOMS such as I never dreamed of as a British SUBJSCT! I have a Palmetto leaflet somewhere and if memory serves me right there are photographs of a Colt 1860 Army and a Dragoon. I have a 62 cal, shield inlay, short stock, palm tree markings, liverpool on the side plate. 0000038284 00000 n >RPo$Q2y4%TCpu352ji%:@"BHUSYX}n CQCY}B%I"T4~S-2 +{gzIE$Or}a;nY 98cjdi (1 D,)} We also tried, but did not record, Remington factory ammo and some handloads. A copy of a shipping manifest dated December 23, 1986 from Aldo Uberti & Co. to Colt Industries Firearms Division (Charter Oak Blvd, W. Hartford CT 06119 USA) detailing Italian Goods to be Exported. xref Pietta always has the proofmarks and the datecode on the right side of the frame. Got an older Navy Arms Remington "Zouave" with barrel mfg. I am aware of the 1861 Whitney and the Spiller and Burr. The largest market for these weapons is the U.S.A. and some of the larger American importers often have their own names stamped on the guns. http://www.powderhombre.com/mbpproofmarks.pdf You must have Adobe or similar software to read pdf files. A forum community dedicated to Colt firearm owners and enthusiasts. 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